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zombiesatemybrain
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That's a big generalisation, I know plenty of people without a sense of humour!  
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Deathbed
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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this thread provides a great read.
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NatheoftheLivingDead
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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Aye it does indeed Just read through it myself. I think I'll stick to reading it actually....after this...
Well, it's true many people don't have a sense of humour, but surely you see what I'm getting at?
There.
That's it.
Proud of me or what?
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doc_horror
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All the people who started bands a couple of years ago that have split up by now (horrorcaust, fall victim, about a fucking million others) should merge into horror punk supergroups... each of those bands probably has one member left who wants to do horror punk, while the rest quit on em to do hardcore or strokes or whatever it is kids do these days... they should pool their evil minds and re-invigorate the uk seeeeeeeeeeeeeen.
Everyone should check Pink Hearse and Billy Rebel too.
And Eyaculacion Post-Mortem, but they are Spanish.
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zombiesatemybrain
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Yep, Pink Hearse were cool, although I did kinda get the impression it was the first time they'd been allowed to stay up late  . Eyaculation Post Mortem were good too, although they could have been singing about their Tesco shop for all I know |
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Calavera
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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horrorcaust split up?
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danblood
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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aye on pink hearse and billy rebel!
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NatheoftheLivingDead
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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See, UK horror punk isn't dying!
Look, new material! http://www.myspace.com/curseuk
(Oh my god, I'm a such a whore...)
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MonsterMash
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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I think the thing is, a few years ago (like 2003/4) there was a big boom in horrror/sp00ky stuff in a lot of aspects of alternative culture.
You had your "dark" punk bands like AFI getting big with 'Sing the Sorrow', and Alkaline Trio with 'Good Mourning'. Plus you had bands like Good Charlotte who, although really shitty, had that whole Hot Topic goth/sp00ky image going on. You had clothing lables like Atticus putting gravestones and spiders and stuff on their shirts, and even Blink 182 went "goth" and started recording with Robert Smith and putting stuff about Nightmare Before Christmas in their songs.
Then you had all the metalcore bands like Avenged Sevenfold with their devillocks and Misfits shirts, and Atreyu and Bleeding Through saying how they were influenced by the Misfits. Plus you'd got things like the Murderdolls picking their top Misfits records in Metal Hammer magazine and stuff like that.
I think that year you had AFI touring and then going on to headline the Radio 1 tent at Reading/Leeds, Alkaline Trio on the Lock Up stage, the Misfits doing the Project 1950 tour, umpteen sp00ky clothing labels starting up making ribcage tops and zombie shirts and all sorts.
Of course these things move on and so do a lot of the people who associate with them at the time. The music scene is always changing and what is big one minute isn't the next.
But there are always those that stay behind because they like it and immerse themselves more in that scene and start to check out other bands and produce their own stuff.
I guess the point I'm making with this excessively long post is that the UK scene might be a lot smaller than it was a few years ago, and seem like it's kind of at odds with what is popular in the "mainstream" of the alternative scene - but it's still there and there's still dedicated people working hard to keep it going.
And that maybe it's better underground..?
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NatheoftheLivingDead
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| MonsterMash wrote: | | And that maybe it's better underground..? |
Amen to that!
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zombiesatemybrain
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Everything's better underground, whether it wants to be or not, especially cats  |
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MonsterMash
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:27 am Post subject: |
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| zombiesatemybrain wrote: | | Everything's better underground, whether it wants to be or not, especially cats |
Have you been burying cats again?
Remember all the fuss we had with the neighbours last time... I had to tell them you ate it before they would go away.
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zombiesatemybrain
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| MonsterMash wrote: | | zombiesatemybrain wrote: | | Everything's better underground, whether it wants to be or not, especially cats |
Have you been burying cats again?
Remember all the fuss we had with the neighbours last time... I had to tell them you ate it before they would go away. |
Nah, I learnt my lesson, now I just stick to burrying their kids  |
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NatheoftheLivingDead
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You know, I'm actually a little more cynical about the state of UKHP now than I was a while back. It seems all the good horror bands are American, German or Japanese. I know there are a few British bands, but few have made a national impact. I know the Internet helps, and obviously us lot are from all over the country and all know about these bands, but who else cares?
In a strange way, it would almost be better if horror punk became "cool". Because of it's very nature, there's no denying its roots, so the whole "metalcore - blending two genres together and claiming 100% credit" thing couldn't really happen. The tasteful ideas have all been done before and newer bands wouldn't be able to say they didn't just jump on the bandwagon if it was obvious they had. Any attempts at "groundbreaking" would be laughed at through sheer ridiculousness. Horrorpunktechnodanceravemetaljazzcore? I don't think so...
Either that or MCR and Aiden would become "classic rock"...
So, would it better if no-one gave a shit about horror punk, and the Crimson Ghost became nothing but a logo for a scene kid clothing label? Or would it be better if horror punk became the new "cool" thing, and Blitzkid and Calabrese were appearing on Top Of The Pops and being praised by Fearne and Reggie?
I personally love it. I think it's a massive shame that it's not bigger in the UK, and I wish more people would get into it. Then I wouldn't get stared at with quite so much disdain, walking through town in my leather jacket, skeli-gloves and devilock. I mean usually I don't care, but it would be nice if at least some of my friends "got" the whole horror thing.
Holy shit. I don't think I wrote as much in my Politics A-Level exam...
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MonsterMash
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| NatheoftheLivingDead wrote: | | You know, I'm actually a little more cynical about the state of UKHP now than I was a while back. It seems all the good horror bands are American, German or Japanese. I know there are a few British bands, but few have made a national impact. I know the Internet helps, and obviously us lot are from all over the country and all know about these bands, but who else cares? |
i know what you mean, although i would be hard-pressed to think of a single UK-based horror punk band (not goth or psychobilly or anything else but actual horror punk) who has made an impact outside the small scene. In fact the only horror-themed band i can think of with any sort of mass following in the UK is The Damned.
Send More Paramedics got a lot of attention in the mainstream-alternative press a few years back, but even then, that didnt really translate into anything more than curiosity - i think that outside the Leeds scene they only managed one headline UK tour before they imploded, the rest was support slots. and even then they weren't horror punk exactly - take away the zombie theme and you had a pretty accomplished hardcore/thrash crossover act.
ZATS are probably the biggest horror band in the UK right now and, no disrespect to them, they are far from massive.
| Quote: | In a strange way, it would almost be better if horror punk became "cool". Because of it's very nature, there's no denying its roots, so the whole "metalcore - blending two genres together and claiming 100% credit" thing couldn't really happen. The tasteful ideas have all been done before and newer bands wouldn't be able to say they didn't just jump on the bandwagon if it was obvious they had. Any attempts at "groundbreaking" would be laughed at through sheer ridiculousness. Horrorpunktechnodanceravemetaljazzcore? I don't think so...
Either that or MCR and Aiden would become "classic rock"... |
hmm... not quite sure what you're getting at here.
if horror punk became trendy in the way metalcore was a few years ago, maybe it would give current bands more exposure and maybe you'd get more bands coming onto the scene but i don't think the pay-off would be worth it. a short flaring and then all the trendies and scenesters would move on to the next thing and it'd be back where it started, a few devoted fans and some bands going nowhere.
and i don't think horror punk is really compatible with that sort of flaring in the first place.
you gotta remember, half of the term is "punk". it's an aspect of punk, in the same way as Oi, crust, d-beat, street-punk etc are. None of those genres/sub-genres are in any danger of troubling the mainstream and that gives nobody in those scenes any cause for worry... in fact they like it that way.
the only sort of punk that really comes knocking on the door of the mainstream is the poppy, commercial, radio stuff: and a lot of that is still a hangover from 15 years ago, when the likes of Green Day, Offspring etc first got noticed.
the only difference between horror and things like Oi is that the horror scene is relatively young and new.
yes, i know the Misfits started it all but really, what other bands were around at the same time who played similar stuff?
Most of the bands that have a following now are from the US or Europe, it's true, and some have been going since the late 90s - but most are recent and if it seems like there is a plethora of bands around, bear in mind a lot of them have yet to make any records or play anything more than local shows.
Give it time and perhaps there are bands out there who have potential to make some real waves. but you cant really look at other scenes enviously and say “why isn’t ours like that?” because in those scenes you’ve got 10+ years of groundswell.
| Quote: | | So, would it better if no-one gave a shit about horror punk, and the Crimson Ghost became nothing but a logo for a scene kid clothing label? |
people will always give a shit about the Misfits, but whether they care about other horror bands is another thing entirely. There’s plenty of punks who will wear their crimson ghost patch alongside their Exploited patch and know all the words to Last Caress – but are largely indifferent to any of the more recent horror bands. Why that is so is the million-dollar question we’re always asking on this board.
| Quote: | | Or would it be better if horror punk became the new "cool" thing, and Blitzkid and Calabrese were appearing on Top Of The Pops and being praised by Fearne and Reggie? |
(well, Top of the Pops isn’t on any more)
Personally I’d rather hear the four-minute warning than Blitzkid and Calabrese on daytime Radio 1 – but what’s to stop the likes of Mike Davies playing some horror bands on the Lock-Up? Like I said, it’s a young scene, compared with some of the other genres, but give it a few years and who knows what will happen?
| Quote: | | I personally love it. I think it's a massive shame that it's not bigger in the UK, and I wish more people would get into it. Then I wouldn't get stared at with quite so much disdain, walking through town in my leather jacket, skeli-gloves and devilock. I mean usually I don't care, but it would be nice if at least some of my friends "got" the whole horror thing. |
I think if you dress in any sort of punk style you’re gonna get funny looks from people in town… that’s kind of the whole reason such extreme styles of clothing and hair developed… I know you aren’t really complaining but I don’t think that horror bands being more understood is really going to help stop Joe Public from staring at punks and giving us grief…
As for your mates, why not educate them? If your mates are into punk or goth surely it’s not that much of a leap for them to try listening to some horror bands. Get your goth friends listening to the punkier Bella Morte stuff, play some Karloff or Zombeast for your metal friends, go on from there.
If they’re emo, push them off a bridge and get some new friends!
| Quote: | Holy shit. I don't think I wrote as much in my Politics A-Level exam...
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Tommy Creep
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Germany is where it's at. Look at the crowds going mental at all the horrorpunk shows over there, check out the fiend fest dvd. Most of the US gigs seem pretty dead as far as crowds go just like over here from what i've seen on youtube. Germany tho seems waay better.
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SpookySam
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I want to live in Germany. Just ordered tickets for Satanic Stomp next year!
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MonsterMash
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| SpookySam wrote: | | I want to live in Germany. Just ordered tickets for Satanic Stomp next year! |
we might be going to that, depending on the money situation.
i got my tickets for Hell Nights in Berlin through email the other day, so we'll see what the German scene is really like when we get there!
i think the thing with horror punk in Germany is that its kind of seen really as a sub-set of the goth scene rather than the punk scene, and the German goth scene is absolutely massive (Wave-Gotik-Treffen, the goth festival in Leipzig, is the biggest in the world), so it's not surprising that it's got quite a following over there.
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doc_horror
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:14 am Post subject: |
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Yer! Come n' say hi in Berlin, Monstermash!
Staying underground is a good thing... but there's underground and there's this...
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MonsterMash
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:02 am Post subject: |
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You guys seem to be doing alright, though...
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